Institute of Cognitive Science Colloquia - Zoom Link - Shared screen with speaker view
Tamara Sumner
This is so cool Phil. Love the tie in wit contemporary art.
Brandon M. Booth
I'm curious to hear how fake news factors into this
Tamara Sumner
Also, you can add your questions into the chat and Jean and I can make sure they get posed later
Clara Elizabeth Baker
Do your literacy scales differentiate between people who don’t know about genetics but aren’t aware of their deficit, and people who know they don’t know about genetics?
Matt Bing
I know this is being recorded, but is there by chance a copy of these slides for study?
Clara Elizabeth Baker
Perfect answer thank you!
Medha Sharma
do you think that mixing art with science like the example that you showed earlier of cycle might help us reduce this knowledge gap?
Matt Bing
Will do, thanks!
Hunar Jain
Are you using any measure to compare the subjective understanding and objective understanding?
Tamara Sumner
Hunar, I think this slide is the answer to your question!
Hunar Jain
Got Ya!! Thanks Tamara :)
Matt Bing
I would be fascinating to see if I fall into this same pattern, as I have severe OCD that causes me to have hyper-disabling doubt about almost everything, and guilt about being wrong.What you're talking about now reminds me of some quotes I just wrote down that I feel are very relevant: “The more you know, the more you know you don't know.” ―Aristotle"Knowledge is like a sphere, the greater its volume, the larger its contact with the unknown." -Blaise Pascal“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” ―Albert Einstein
Kayla Cormier
Going off of that, did you have an participants with under-confidence in their knowledge?
Hunar Jain
Can we deduce that less extremity can be related to under-confidence?
Medha Sharma
was subjective knowledge questions asked before the scientific/objective questions or after? I am assuming there will be a bias if they go through the scientific questions before subjective knowledge question
Clara Elizabeth Baker
My internet pooped out so I may havemissed you mentioning this, or may have partially sent my question previously when my internet died,did you record as demographics anything about ancestral lineage or cultural background? I’ve heard ideas that some people from groups traditionally oppressed under white supremacist institutions might be more averse to trusting the medical and other scientific institutions and the recommendations they give. If this stacks up empirically, remedying this would take more than just an increase in scientific literacy or a decrease in overconfidence I would think.
Tamara Sumner
I was wondering if you have disaggregated your data by gender to see if there are difference there. In education research, there is some evidence that males overestimate their knowledge more than females.
Matt Bing
I think about that kind of thing basically every day.
Donna J Caccamise
Donna J Caccamise
fantastic talk and very timely!
Margaret Perkoff
Have you done or are you considering any type of studies that track the influence of particular messaging types on changes in these opinions? In the paper you allude to the fact that presenting scientific evidence is not an effective strategy but working with community and/or religious leaders might be.
Tamara Sumner
yes, and that is why learning sciences have shifted towards socio-cultural theories of learning - recognizing that cognition is strongly linked to our social groups
Medha Sharma
wow, that is really interesting. thanks!
Matt Bing
I'd listen to you talk about this for hours and hours. :)
Purnendu -
+1 Matt
Hunar Jain
Brandon M. Booth
RE: fake news... Could you say a bit more about this and how it affects perceptions and measurements of objective/subjective knowledge in your studies?
Matt Hong
What is 'knowledge'? Is the term getting at how much information we have about the world (whether correct or not)? Or how much we think we know about the world (a measure of subjective uncertainty?)
Great talk, Phil (while getting my car serviced). Do people subjectively realize how much their knowledge is dependent on their external communities, or do they feel like their knowledge is internal?
Margaret Perkoff
Interesting thank you for continuing this work and doing the follow up on attitude changes - excited to see where this goes in the future!
Shaw L. Ketels
Do you think that the mode of acquisition of knowledge predicts the most effective mode of change? e.g., if I’ve developed an opinion based on peripheral routes of persuasion, or if I’ve gathered incorrect subjective knowledge, do I need to use subjective knowledge to fix those misconceptions?
Matt Bing
@Matt Hong, I would say this presentation is that both of those things are different types of "knowledge" and the balance between the two is quite complex!
Tamara Sumner
Fabulous talk and amazing conversation afterwards. Unfortunately, I have to sign off and head to an adventure in dentistry. :-)
Medha Sharma
the system 1 and system 2 are the systems that were mentioned by Daniel Kahneman in his book?
Kieran Smith (he/him)
Have you ever tried reevaluating people's judgement of their own level of knowledge after asking them objective knowledge questions? (i.e. that maybe they don't know the answer to)
Mike Klymkowsky
Mike Klymkowsky
Link to Flat Earth "Science" -- Wrong, but not Stupid by Sabine Hossenfelder
Matt Hong
What insights can we draw from this hypothesis in terms of how we appraoch learning and education? YouTube --- good or bad?
Matt Bing
Mike, she seems like she has the exact right approach to that subject. Empathizing with someone will allow you to understand their thought processes and identify cognitive distortions better.
Kayla Cormier
Thank you! This was so interesting!
Matt Bing
Yes yes yes yes yes! I couldn't agree more with all of that. There are countless variables to consider when trying to understand how to communicate with someone with drastically different views.Thank you so much for this Phil.
Trevor Grant
Thanks for the talk! Really interesting (and important) stuff.
Julianna Harris
Thank you!
Emily Johns-O'Leary (she/her/hers)
Thank you!!
Purnendu -
This talk was great! Thank you!
Medha Sharma
Thank you for the talk!